Badland Part 103 Pilots and Builders Forum

Still waiting on the accurate parcel scale to complete my CG calculations. So with 2 days of nice warm dry weather after the rains, I decided to put the beast on my converted trailer to work out a procedure and to get some measurements about where to mount the tailwheel bracket. Once again a valuab...

LA F2 Flyer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:24 pm Haha, time to hit that treadmill!

Now only if I had knees! I'm working on that. I may not be able to to run with them but I certainly can get on the bicycle machine!

Good stuff! I'm thinking, if he's got that Badland coming in at 248Lbs, with the F5 and being conservative at a weight savings of 25Lbs, that my F5 might come in around the low 220Lbs (accounting for same engine and such). Crap, I weigh more than my plane will! I really need to take my diet a lot m...

This is just so cool....

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Hi all! New to ultralights but have been flying since 1956 when grandpa bundled mom and 6 week old me into his C-170. I bought Chris Deuel’s Badland F1 he had on display at Airventure 2023, picked it up in November and drove it to its new home at WVI Watsonville, CA. Got a PPL in 1977, flew Cheroke...

Real nice Kurt! Congratulations on making it to this point. Looking forward to more in the future.

Todd

I am thinking they will work fine. My only concern is the amount of flex in PVC...but I don't think there will be enough to do any harm. To help reduce most of the flex, get yourself a can of insulation spray foam and shoot it down the pipes. It'll expand to the other end. Cut off the mess at the o...

I also signed and donated but as I did I had the feeling that I had sighed before. I wish there was a way to check on that but decided it was better to sign it twice then not at all. Thank you Gary. The more we can get to sign, the more chance we'll get the FAA and have a chance at getting some rea...

Thanks for the feedback folks! The first on is pretty much done. I am extending it from one end of the control surface to the other. Todd, they will be stored inside when not in use, so I am hoping to get at least a year out of them. Also, the Dollar Store carries them, so replacing them will be ea...

Signed and Donated! Thanks for Sharing this. ~Barry Thanks Barry. I hope that Jim along with our help and others can get a little action on this subject. I saw it again today, a guy in Texas asking on the North Texas Ultralight Club forum where he can get training. It's going to be one of those tou...

I agree that the short gust locks may damage the plane. There's simply not enough material in between the fabric to really take any strain? I'm guessing on that, but like you, I'd rather be safe with something larger than sorry because something gets damaged. How long do you think the gust locks nee...

Hey all, this is really important. Jim Pfarr, the chair of the EAA Ultralight/Light-Sport Aircraft Council is asking for our help. I got to meet up with Jim in early March. Along with some friendly conversation, we also discussed the issues with Ultralight flight training. Jim has some great ideas ...

I am late to the party, here. I am pretty sold on the F23. First it is air cooled, meaning less to go wrong like a coolant leak, etc. Second, opposed runs smooth. Smooth is less to go wrong. Third, the F23 can be throttled back in cruise to like 40 or less HP, so less wear and tear, and fourth, the...

I got the port wing mounted and with some creativity got the flapperon hung. As I documented in many previous posts, the IKEA wood table and 4 chairs have proven very useful. IMG_1243.JPG It really looks like an airplane. IMG_1245.JPG IMG_1246.JPG As I posted earlier, I need to repair the stb wing ...

Thanks for the info. It does sound promising, but I'll have to prove it before I could actually consider building one. Fortunately I have plenty of other project, so no great hurry. Just remember, Chris is over a year with back orders. You don't want to be waiting around for the kit! Chris is a sti...

Todd, if Chris offered, I might just take him up on it! I have to say, welding is a lot of fun...once you get to be at least halfway decent at it, which is where I feel like I am at. I completed the welding of the tie down D-rings. The welds got progressively better, and I have confidence that they...

Agreed, those welds look really nice. Be careful, Chris may hire you in Minnesota to help with Badland production!

Really, though, the project is looking great.

Todd

Looking really nice, and I also like the grommet idea. I'll be using your documentation a lot. I just put a bid in for a home here in Florida. Nothing great about the home, but the shop is really sweat! LakeShop.png If I get the house, then it's a matter of waiting for Chris to complete my kit. Todd

ksatter26 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:04 pm Finally got around to adding the topside EasyPlot trim tape to the starboard wing. Tomorrow I'll flip it over and add the underside stripe before adding a trim line around the wingtip to complete the starboard wing cover.

Looking really sharp!

Todd

They always get you on the little thing

Todd

LA F2 Flyer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:04 pm Very nice. Is there any risk of pulling the line (between the blue and red) out of being straight when heating and shrinking? I always wondered what was required to keep it straight.

Good question as I intend to go with dual colors as well.

Todd

Bummer on my first actual training flight yesterday. It was clear in Middelburg, and very cold. I got over to the airport (CRG) about noon. The airport has a pagoda with a speaker broadcasting the tower controllers. It was cloudy, cold, and the wind was blowing. At one point, the cross wind was at 1...

Just an FYI Kurt. I'm not a fan of the red and blue material, but your work and layout is really super nice. I like it a lot! Great job man! Great Job!

Todd

That is really nice. I like how level the plane is. Nice work.

I read the article and found it pretty much on point. A few little missteps but things a UL pilot will know anyhow. For someone like myself, a X-country in a UL would be a blast. I learned with a map, compass and watch. Now days with the cheaper GPS's its a lot easier. The easiest plan is to fly ti...

It's kind of odd in that the article does seem to have a negative tone through a lot of it, up until the conclusion, where the author seems to do an about-face. Still an entertaining read, albeit a bit redundant regarding the range (I thought). Agreed, it was sort of strange that he didn't seem to ...

I was searching around and found the following article. I thought it was interesting and provides a lot of good information, especially for the beginner or newbie to Ultralights. Though I don't agree with all comments by the author (some somewhat negative), the overall article in my opinion is prett...

Very cool Todd. I wish I had them before I covered my wing. So there is an advantage to being way down the line to get a Badland 😁 It looks like we are in for more rain here. Starting tonight. But hopefully the weekend gives me some clear work days to get more done on the trailer. Nice to hear you ...

Kurt sent me the 3D printer files for the Badland wings. I printed them fairly easily. They (as all 3D printed parts) need a little cleanup, but I can see where this would give a much smoother transition from the front of the ribs to the front spar. https://youtube.com/shorts/CBkeT3f-aOc I have a hi...

Thanks for the response and the information. I did remember the you were getting a kit and not a ready to fly Badland but only after I had hit send! But it would still be fun to meet at Badland when you pick up the kit or when you fly it back to Minnesota at a later date. Will be watching for your ...

Todd enjoyed the cloud Ahoy video very much. I need to look up where to get that app on my phone. I am currently trying to get back up with my local CFI in a 152 or even the 172 just to try and keep the lesson I had almost a year ago from going to waste. They seem so reluctant to spend time with so...

Todd: "Dear FAA, we definitely did NOT do stall-spin training, hammerheads and steep dives in the Cessna!" Meanwhile Cloud-Ahoy is telling a very different story. Hmm. Todd, you didn't mention that you were renting a 152 Aerobat for your discovery flight! :lol: Funny thing, I was going to...

The embedded video is from my Discovery flight at Holladay Aviation here in Florida. Since (hopefully by June) I'll be assembling my F5, I decided to take the time in between now and then to get some professional assistance with flying again. The first flight was on 01/25 at 1pm. The plane is a Cess...

Very nice, and clean. Good lief spring tie's, all looking really good Peer. Everything is in the detail! Thanks for posting!

Todd

How easily do they sand or grind down at the thick end? I am thinking some adjustment may be necessary for any excess glue on the spar. It's probably better to sand the adapter than sand the spar and risk nicks or gouges. Very cool nonetheless! Sanding the plastic is easy. The problem will be how t...

I'll see if I can fire up the printer tonight and print a few. I set up the printer last week and printed the following:

This is pretty simple, but showed me I have the printer set up properly.

Let me see if I have time to print a few of the files Kurt posted.

Todd

I wonder how far he is back-ordered? Good to hear he is doing well! And you are definitely picking up rather than shipping? Well I recall he said he can crank out three planes (F1 - F4) per month. I don't know if that's just frames, frames and wings, or complete kits. Figuring that in though with 1...

I spoke with Chris at the start of this week. He's getting so busy that he currently has an 18 to 24 month waiting list. If you're thinking of purchasing a Badland ultralight, don't be discouraged by this long wait. This is because Chris found himself a welder to help him pump out frames. Chris said...

Todd has removed the filter disallowing post of these files, so here they are (both 4mm and 6mm versions): 4mm.3mf 6mm.3mf Spar Tube Adapter - Parametrized v2.f3d Spar Tube Adapter - Parametrized v2.skp Thanks Kurt. I was able to download them without any issue. I may try to print them on my printe...

Thanks. I did manage to send you the 4 files via your private email. Removing the file extension restrictions will allow me to post the files for anyone else who'd like to use them. Weather somewhat improved and it appears that the adjustable wing stands will work so I hope to get on with covering ...

OK Kurt, I've added the file extensions for the most common 3D printer files. I still had trouble uploading a test file, but found out what that was. Not only did I need to add file extensions, but I also had to turn on downloading for files other than just images and pictures. The site will now all...

A friend has produced 3D printing files for some small parts that I hope to use to smooth the wing rib capstrip ends into the spar tubes. I believe he's posted them on YouTube referencing the Badland F-3. I have copies of the files for: SketchUp (.skp), Fusion 360 (.f3d), and 3D slicing tools (.3mf...

Oops, maybe a little too tight?

Thanks Peer. I'm at that point where you were months ago - nervous and excited at the same time. I looked up the 152 I'll be training in, pulled down the manual, and I am reviewing pertinent parts, waking up old sleepy brain cells. I'm hoping for clear clam sky on Thursday, early afternoon. Great on...

I'll likely replace the entire hub, since I am using wheel bolts instead of nuts currently. (If you've ever tried to hold a heavy tire in place while trying to thread the first lug bolt, you know why I want to replace the full hub!) HA! Yes I've had the "pleasure?" of having to do that, a...

I have been checking on AOA's for a while now. Most are designed to go in the leading edge of the wing which will not work on the SR/RR-Badlands. The only one I see that will work good is the Belite AOA. It is mounted on the strut/jury strut. Not overly expensive at $600. I will eventually have one...

Very good post. And a good reminder that a stall can happen at any speed! Thanks, I enjoyed watching the video and typing up the information. The info seems to stick in my head a bit better than if I just watch the video. For such a short video, I enjoyed it and how well the information was put tog...

Well, it's been raining off and on here in LA, and never really drying out enough for me to want to start any welding. I am concerned I won't be able to finish a weld and shoot primer before the next round of rain hits. But I did get enough of a break in the weather to tackle the leaf springs. I wa...

This series is designed to provide you with information to help you determine what may be of help to you in your pursuit of ultralight flight. This means these posts are in no way meant to be lessons. They are here to provide more information about the subject matter available in the video. You must...

Twenty seven for a low tomorrow night and a high of 80 next Thursday....go figure!

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