Flaperon control

[CraigDowning]

Does anyone have pictures of the new style flaperon control cable mounting? The manual shows a different cable pivot than what is in the manual and I dont believe that I have everything I need to connect them. The throttle is different than what is shown also

[LA F2 Flyer]

I have the original mounting, I believe. I wasn't aware that it had changed. Can you post pics of the pieces?

[Bruce_L]

I got these with my F2 kit - have not installed them yet

Not sure if this is what you are discussing here

[ksatter26]

That's what mine looks like also. F3, kit production number 15, September 2022.

[LA F2 Flyer]

Kurt, would you have a picture of them installed? Mine came machined with a plate that fits against the rib, as I recall. (This is on the wing side of the cable, correct?)

You can barely see mine in this pic. Sorry, I don't have a better pic of it. You'll need to zoom in.

[LA F2 Flyer]

Did your brackets include some form of backing plate? It looks like you are meant to set them at the ideal angle and drill and bolt them into place.

[ksatter26]

No plate. Just the two solid aluminum blocks ...pre-drilled. I believe I epoxied a 2.5×2.5" peice of .016" aluminum sheet to the bottom of the rib to provide a surface to bond the Oratex.

[LA F2 Flyer]

The Oratex will actually bond nicely to the wood, if you seal it first. I did two coats of Urethane.

I imagine you can bolt it through the rib but I would reach out to Chris to confirm.

[ksatter26]

Yes, the Oratex didnicely to the rib. I cut a rectangular hole in the plate thru which I mounted the flaperon cable mount. The plate provided a nice flat surface around the mount to attach the bottom surface Oratex.

[LA F2 Flyer]

Kurt, did you bolt the blocks through the rib? How did you secure them?

[ksatter26]

Notched the rib capstrip and used AN3 bolts thru the rib and the aileron mount .searching for a picture to post.

[LA F2 Flyer]

Thanks! I'm curious to see what the new set-up looks like (and I'm sure Craig will appreciate it as well)!

[Bruce_L]

Craig, I spent the last few days just studying the whole flaperon setup. I read that part of the build manual over and over. I did some dry fit testing on my right wing while I was between coats of paint on some of my parts and its starting to make a lot more sense to me. Not sure if my parts look like what you have, since my kit was manufacture much earlier.

FYI - While I was at Oshkosh (2024) I took a lot of pictures of the fancy blinged out orange Badland 103 (Garys awesome plane) including pictures of the flaperons.

How about I post some here ????

I still need to attach the trailing edge aluminum extrusions to the wings and flaperons before I start mounting the flaperons.

My only real concern is how do I confirm the chord line of the flaperons relative to the wing chord so I can drill the hole for the flaperon control arm at the proper location. I am sure that will get figured out with me pestering someone out there !!!

I am trying to keep up my momentum on this build.

Do anything to help you out !!! You are not alone on this, you hear me buddy ?

[Bruce_L]

Here are the pictures I took at Oshkosh 2024.

If my checkbook was nice and fat, I would try to buy this plane no questions asked and be flying today! Oh well

I am just now noticing that these brackets are riveted on top of the finished covering material. Makes sense to me. A lot less issues with trying to trim installed fabric around the base of the brackets, and sealing air gaps there too. Maybe get everything set up and trial fit with Clecos, then after paint, pull the rivets for good. ( You can't see them here but there are two similar brackets located under these top ones. The hidden brackets mimic the shape of the airfoil at the trailing edge of the wooden rib. These that are underneath are what the rivets from the top bracket bite into for grip)

I will use the tip of a hot soldering iron to burn some holes where the rivets will need to go in the fabric before painting. Holes will be easy to locate later on. The heat will also seal the hole so no shaggy fibers try to spread out and make a mess of my paint at that area.

Below are shots of the cable connections, from the solid aluminum bracket bolted to a wing rib as well as
connection to the control arm that is affixed to the end of the flaperon aluminum tubing. The control arms
that came with my kit are beautifully made solid aluminum marvels.

Some different views below

I hope these pictures can help someone with their Badland build.

[Badland-F5 Pilot]

They will certainly help me. Thank you Bruce.

Todd

[LA F2 Flyer]

Agreed. An excellent source of information for future builders.

I'm curious about the clear hose "sleeve" on the flaperon cable near the mounting bracket. I wonder if the metal sheath was pulling out and creating a potential binding issue. Something I need to worry about on my cables, perhaps?

[Bruce_L]

Wow, Someone is zooming in for the juicy details here ! I never even noticed that tubing myself. I am not at that stage in my build at this time.

I do know that this plane I photographed already has a few years on it and maybe the control cable came from a different supplier perhaps.

Not sure why that modification is there or who did it.

I know that I would soon be needing some pictures to help me later on so I took a bunch while I had a completed BL103 in front of me.

As for me Its true, a picture is worth 1k words after all.

I have been taking a lot of pictures on my build, just haven't posted too many of them here.

[LA F2 Flyer]

Haha, I only zoomed in because it was something I had thought about recently...what would be the repercussions of that tube sliding out of the sheath? Would it bind the aileron controls?

I'm sure I'm overthinking it, but that piece is crimped in (I believe) so it makes me wonder. These are the things that stick in my head when going over my plane (for the umpteenth time), as I did very recently before seeing your post.